Friday , August 18 2017

Opinion: What we’d like in a Nexus 6

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The other day when I published the piece regarding the leaks of the Nexus 6 details there was a lot of discussion about what people would prefer to be in their Nexus 6. Most was centred around the size of the device. Dan Tyson and I decided to take it one step further and start a discussion about what we would like to be in the Nexus 6. Problem was, in the end, we agreed on everything so there wasn’t much of a discussion. We’ll leave that up to you in the comments section.

I’ll start off our wishlist with the most controversial piece of the Nexus 6.

The Display Size

Device and Display Size go hand in hand as the display size generally influences the overall size. There has been a lot of discussion regarding the screen size of the Nexus 6 with the display apparently going to be 5.9in, pushing the phone to even the higher extremes of the phablet definition. The outcry of “TOO BIG!” was/is deafening. Phones are becoming phablets and phablets are becoming tablets. Where will it end? Surely a device with a 5.9in screen cannot be comfortable to hold in the hand? Maybe, maybe not. If the phone is bezelicious ala Sony devices then it will be like a shoe-phone but if they follow the Moto X and LG G3 lead and have minimal bezels then it may not be too big. Yesterdays image leaks show that unless the person holding the Nexus 6 in the photos is an NBA basketballer with giant-sized hands, then it may not be as big as we thought.

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In saying that a 5.9in phone makes it difficult to reach all corners of the display without too many hand gymnastics. Personally, in my Ausdroid Nexus 6 I would prefer the display to be 5.5in. I’ve found that with the OnePlus One (which is a 5.5in display and plentiful when it comes to bezels) there are times when using it one handed is very difficult. Not a massive issue considering how often that comes up but I’m finding it’s stretching the size possible for pocket carrying (we don’t want an Android #bendgate scandal do we?). The section for placing the phone in my new car will not hold anything bigger than the OnePlus One- the OnePlus One is hanging over the edge as it is. I feel that we keep “getting used to it” with phones getting bigger and bigger. I’m drawing a line in the sand. Enough is enough. Stop making such bloody big phablets! A majority of people don’t like it- a survey I did (sample size: 5) found that 80% of people prefer a phone smaller than a phablet. Give me a 5.5in screen in a LG G3 body, or how about a 5.2in screen in a body the size of a Moto X?

So we now know the Ausdroid Nexus 6 will have a 5.5in display. What display tech would we like? How about basic IPS LCD, same as that in the HTC M8? I feel that a Nexus needs to push boundaries so it would be nice if we could fit a QHD display in the budget, as long as using this resolution didn’t affect battery life or performance too much. Google, can you please do SOMETHING, anything even, about optimising the battery life and tweaking performance of the chip?

Processor

Android L will support 64-bit architecture. As such the reference device should be, no make that must be, a 64-bit processor. What options does that give us to put inside our Nexus 6?

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Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 is the first SOC that comes to mind. The 810 was expected to begin sampling in the second half of 2014. That is now. Stick it in our Nexus 6 please. The Nexus devices are never massive selling devices so maybe a “sampling” will be enough to produce a Nexus 6 for all who want one.

If the Snapdragon 810 is not ready, what then? How about the same processor that is rumoured to be going in the HTC Nexus 9? The nVidia Denver Tegra K1 64-bit processor. Will Google take a chance on another Tegra after they had source issues with the Tegra processor in the Nexus 7 2012? I personally don’t think Google will want to put the same processor in both Nexus devices and as such will go for something different.

How about an Intel Moorefield, a quad core processor that can be clocked up to 2.3GHz and will sport an “enhanced GPU” and best of all will be available in the second half of 2014. Intel say that the Moorefield processors outperform the 800 processors from Qualcomm but they would say that wouldn’t they. Intel is a big unknown. Intel is angling for an entry to smartphones and wouldn’t be above handing out subsidies for using their processor, and we know Google likes to make Nexus hardware as cheap as possible but this is my Nexus 6 so I am going to go with a Snapdragon 810 in my Nexus 6 thanks all the same. The Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 is designed and manufactured using 20 nm process technology, contains 8 cores in a big.LITTLE arrangement with a new Adreno 430 GPU which producer much faster graphics wile saving on power consumption at the same time. Yes please. (Do NOT even think about applying Mediatek!)

Memory (ROM)

64GB minimum, plain and simple. OnePlus were able to stick 64GB in a sub $400 phone. They stated that 64GB costs no more than 32GB so why do the companies even bother with 32GB? One competitor comes in 128GB, why not our Android reference device? 16GB is a waste of space and time. Games cannot be installed on the sd card since KitKat arrived, and since Google has eschewed the SD Card slot on Nexus phones since the Nexus One, a Nexus 6 is not likely to sport one. So 32GB is a minimum in my opinion and if 64GB costs the same, then give me 64GB. No excuse. NO SD SLOT! Never, ever, again. Give us hard memory instead. It’s what app developers want and it’s what many of us want, assuming there is enough onboard memory. For this reason I’m going to put 64GB into the Ausdroid Nexus 6 with a possibility of a 128GB “premium” version.

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Ram

The RAM is a no brainer for me. All flagships are now arriving with 3GB so it would be extremely remiss of Google to not put 3GB DDR3 RAM in our Ausdroid Nexus 6. Do we really need 3GB of ram with Android? Probably not but lets live on the edge. Let’s push the envelope of possibilities. Without bloatware such as LG software or Touchwiz I seriously doubt 3GB is really required in everyday usage, especially with the way Android handles RAM, but it would future-proof the device for a possible longer life-span.

Battery

If we are putting a 5.5in display into our Nexus 6 then I think we could at least put a 3200mAh battery in there. We do not need it to be removable. We want our Ausdroid Nexus 6 to last longer than the half day or so the Nexus 5 lasts after less than 12 months, I’m going to ask Google to optimise the device entirely for extra battery life. We are pushing a 5.5in QHD display. We need power optimisation. We need the battery to perform much better than that on the Nexus 5 does/did. LG and Google should be ashamed of themselves with that battery. While we are there stick with the Qi charging. Those of us who have used Qi charging love it. I’m yet to see someone who uses Qi charging WANT to go back to a USB port for charging a phone. I’m also going to request that Google stick turbo charging such as that in the Oppo Find 7, Galaxy Note 4 or the Moto X for the times where charging time is scarce and we need to quickly get it up and running for a long period of time. I’m also going to demand that these turbo charging accessories are available at release. A turbo car charger and turbo powerbank is what I am going to provide with my Nexus 6.

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Camera

I think a 13MP camera with a decent camera module (Sony EXMOR BSi sensor would be nice) and OIS is a minimum of what I am going to put in the Ausdroid Nexus 6. Along with the Nexus 6, Google will also give us, as part of the Android L, decent APIs that clever developers can hook into the camera modules and really make the camera sing.

For a front camera, I’m going to put a 5MP camera. We all make fun of selfies but there is a time and place for them for everyone. I’m out with my boy playing minigolf, how else do I memorialise the moment in time? Trust a stranger to take a photo with my precious Ausdroid Nexus 6? Doubt it. I’m going to take a selfie with my decent 5MP front-facing camera.

Other Features

As per usual, I’m going to include a multi-coloured LED notification light with all RGB possibilities. Its a Nexus trademark now. I love it. Who doesn’t?

I’m going to provide accessories at affordable prices and have them available when the phone launches so that those early adopters don’t have to pay $20 postage just to get a genuine Nexus case shipped to them. I say affordable because Google have always charged a premium prices for accessories sold on the Play Store. Considering they sell the Nexus devices at or near cost price this is unacceptable and will not happen with our Ausdroid Nexus 6.

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Conclusion

So there you have it, the Ausdroid Nexus 6. Check out the specs summarised below and let us know in the comments what you think. This is what we want in our Nexus 6. We are hoping someone is listening although it is obviously a tad late now but maybe they can hear us for next time. Did we miss anything? What would you add or remove?

The Ausdroid Nexus 6 Specs

  • 5.5in IPS QHD LCD Display
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 Processor with Adreno 430 GPU
  • 64GB and 128GB variations
  • 3GB RAM
  • 3200mAh+ Battery with Qi and Turbo Charging
  • Turbo Car Charger and PowerBank available at phone release
  • 13MP Rear-Facing Camera with OIS
  • 5MP Front-Facing Camera
  • RGB Multi-Coloured LED Notification Light
  • Accessories (cases, chargers etc) available upon device release
 

Scott Plowman   Associate Editor

Scott is our modding guru - he has his finger on the pulse of all things ‘moddable’, pointing us towards all the cutting edge mods hacks that are available. When he’s not gymming it up, or scanning the heck out of Nexus devices, you'll find him on the Ausdroid Podcast.

Outside of Ausdroid, Scott's a health care professional and lecturer at a well known Victorian university.

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43 Comments on "Opinion: What we’d like in a Nexus 6"

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JeniSkunk
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JeniSkunk

64GB as minimum on board storage for apps install, and 128GB microSD capability for media storage.

Lurch
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Lurch
RAM: I think you’ll find the 3GB RAM found in flagship phones at the moment is *actually* the 32bit limit of 3.something GB. When you think about it; its an odd number to have, so in my mind – thats the reason. With a 64bit processor, the sky is the limit for RAM. So my vote would be for 4GB. In saying all of that, as we still see in the Windows world, the actually apps have to be written for 64bit. So dont expect a huge performance boost just from the 64bit-ness. The Intel option could be interesting. Intel… Read more »
GregAndo
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GregAndo

Be careful here…My understanding is that Windows apps (not talking modern but old 32 bit ones) were natively precompiled specifically for the x86 architecture. Most of the Android apps I know of are just in time (JIT) compiled I believe. If so, this could mean that Android apps will just suddenly be able to utilise the new memory limits. Apps that deliberately manage and limit their own memory usage may need updating but and I am not sure if this works with IOS either. But I am under the impression that Android benefits uniquely in this regard…

Lurch
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Lurch

If so, then awesome. I just remember the early cut over the 64bit Windows having issues.

David L
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David L

I dont know if anyone else uses it but the magnet in
my nexus 5 for the qi wireless charging is the greatest.
the official nexus charger is my car dock and the magnet is strong
enough to hold my phone upright and has never fallen off while driving.
its small but a feature in my nexus 5 i use every day and i’m very thankful to have.
it could ever be a reason why not to upgrade if the nexus 6 doesn’t have it.

jimmy
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jimmy

DROPPROOF & waterproof

GregAndo
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GregAndo
Sorry guys, I wouldn’t go for an Ausdroid phone. For me, the Nexus6 is looking great as is – but this is what I am hoping for 5.9″ or larger (Check!) OLED Screen Water resistance Large battery capacity over thinness Front facing stereo speakers (Check!) 3GB RAM or more 64GB or more storage 802.11ac AptX support Qi charging Quick charge LED Flash (Check!) NFC Wake on voice Don’t care about: 64bit processor Headphone jack or it’s postion Front or back camera quality Don’t want: Finger print scanner Also, stop making such bloody tiny phones! No one wants them, of the… Read more »
Damien Xenos
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Damien Xenos

I agree with all this (don’t know what AptX is). The phone can have larger batteries now without sacrificing thinness as they are larger.
Water resistance is a must. Could be bottom/top facing speakers.
Replaceable battery is a must.

GregAndo
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GregAndo

AptX is a high quality Bluetooth audio streaming profile with high quality results compared to regular Bluetooth audio.

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

what would you consider tiny? 5″? i agree – it is hard to go back to 5″ after using 5.5″ display.

GregAndo
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GregAndo

I currently have a 6.44″ phone…would struggle going even down to 5.5! I hope losing 0.5 doesn’t affect me as much as it does you or I will be sad!

Caleb Johns
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Caleb Johns

What phone would that be?

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

Sony Xperia Z1 Ultra would be my guess.

GregAndo
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GregAndo

Ding ding!

geoff fieldew
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I’d love to see a 20nm Snapdragon 810 (or 808) in the next Nexus phone but availability isn’t expected until the first half of 2015. Best we can hope for is a 28nm Snapdragon 805 which will likely be more than enough power but not the efficiency needed for a super slim form factor.

While I had hoped Android L would address the Nexus 5’s poor battery life, it seems like Google may be going for a bigger phone to allow a battery large enough to offset battery hogs like Google Now and Google Play Services.

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

I read that the 810 will be partially ready (“sampling”) this year but avail in full next year- i’m hoping infull means for a Samsung/HTC-type production line. Maybe this is what will tip Google towards a K1 if the 810 isn’t ready.

geoff fieldew
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Can the K1 go into a phone? I haven’t followed it closely enough. The SHIELD tablet is pretty darn thick. There’d be thermal constraints to such a brute of a GPU. Perhaps a thickish Phablet would allow enough heat dissipation. It’s an exciting prospect if at all possible!

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

I had the same thoughts. I doubt the K1 could be used effectively within the thermal constraints of a phone sized device. Although perhaps that’s why it is such a big phone. Google will look a bit silly if their new Nexus phone doesn’t have 64 bit support even though it really doesn’t matter.

Edit: Nvidia is not known for good battery life in their mobile SOC’s. If the Nexus 6 has a K1 I hope it doesn’t compromise battery life.

derp
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derp

Why would google look silly? All the blame should be going for Qualcomm.

The 805 cant even beat the A7 in most benchmarks its getting quite pathetic. We really need another company to come in and take over as they are really dropping the ball.

Intel and Nvidias tegra arent rated for phone use due to their power and or heat as far as im aware. Would be nice if they scaled it down for phones but I wouldnt be keen on tegra again (they wernt very good for development)

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

Apple has had a 64bit OS for about a year with a phone that actually has hardware that supports it. If Google launches Android L a year later with 64 bit OS but only a 32bit Nexus phone people are going to be hating on Google and they are going to look silly. Yes its the hardware manufacturers fault but at the end of the day lay people wont care. The buck stops with Google.

geoff fieldew
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Even a 32bit A15 based K1 in the Nexus 6 would likely be a top performer. As you say, it really doesn’t matter. A 64bit Denver based K1 in the Nexus 9 would be a welcome design win for nVidia. They have said that they’re developing Android L on the 64bit K1 so fingers crossed that it’s a possibility for Nexus 6 too.

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

A survey I did, sample size of only 2 found that 100% of respondents want phones much smaller than 5.5″. Seriously, why include such useless information in your article. I’m interested in your opinion that’s why I’m reading your article with ‘Opinion’ in the title. I’m not interested in ridiculously useless statistics.

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Darren

It was his opinion that it was funny!

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

It’s my opinion that you’re not 😉

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

I was trying to add a bit of fun to the post. Obviously I missed with that one. Sorry mate

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

I hoped it was an attempt at comedy even though it wasn’t particularly obvious to me. Misuse of stat’s is a pet peeve of mine and I didn’t need to be so negative in my response. Apologies back at you 🙂

vijay alapati
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vijay alapati

Personally no more than 5″, I’m good with current size, bezels can be smaller, better battery, remove the camera bump, better speakers, oled screen and if possible make it IP57

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

the bezels on the Moto X look fairly attractive so maybe they can do the same thing for the Nexus 6…

if moto make it it could well be OLED- they love their OLEDs atm.

david
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david

Everything the N5 has plus
Fingerprint scanning
IR remote
Bigger battery( I want to be able to use my phone hard for a day and a half without charging)
More storage 64GB minimum or uSD card!
Better camera

Duncan_J
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Duncan_J
My original post has dissapeared (that happens a lot from my phone) If you designed phones Scott, I would buy them. If this was the announced Nexus I would buy it. But, I would complain that it wasn’t 5.2″ max, but I would get it (I’ve found the Lg G3 a little big and my N5 could be a little bigger (but I think it’s the perfect size)). o 64 Gb Yes o Qi charging Table stakes, 0 Stereo front facing speakers yes o Camera, for me this goes beyond HW. If we’re dreaming I want Android Lamingtonto have a… Read more »
Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

I agree totally on the camera- I think that is what we are all hoping the supposed new camera APIs give us. Maybe this way Google themselves don’t have to do the work but can palm it off to developers.

I wonder who sent the manufacturers the memo that we prefer thinness over battery life. Certainly not true from everyone I speak to.

Damien Xenos
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Damien Xenos

I agree. Would like to see 2 heavy days use. After 4 thy day with 1+1 with 3 push emails, Bluetooth and hours of screen time and more than 20% in the back at the end of the day I am sold.

Getting concerned that no spare batteries exist to replace in the 1+1 is a concern

Pumpino
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Pumpino

How about 4G 700MHz and 850MHz? The OnePlus One has neither, and I believe the HTC M8 doesn’t have 850MHz. It would be nice to have a Nexus that fully supports Telstra and Vodafone’s networks.

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

so very true. It is something we seem to forget about all the time. Compatibility with more frequencies would be nice , especially with the providers expanding frequencies as we speak.

In defense of the OPO- it is not designed for here so it has limited frequencies. I think they were a bit hamstrung with frequencies due to monetary constraints, hence it not supporting all bands even in countries they released to.

Damien Xenos
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Damien Xenos

I am not sure what everyone’s fascination is with 4g. 3g is plenty quick enough and with data limits as they are 4g is not that hot an idea

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Fingerprint reader.
Infrared remote.
Bigger Battery, should be easy with large phones like these, make them fatter if required.
Less thirsty so: -QHD, +1080p
A 5.9 inch variant 🙂 Not everyone has great eyesight or dexterity.
Google quality sound, good volume.

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

Quality sound is imperative IMO. I have a review nearly ready to publish on a device with terrible sound.

Bigger battery seems to be a common theme. Is anybody listening?

Fred
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Fred
For me it goes: 4.0/5.0/6.0 inch IPS HD LCD Display Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 Processor with Adreno 430 GPU 64GB with SD slot 3GB RAM 2500/5000mAh+ Battery options with Qi and Turbo Charging Project Tango rear cameras, with OIS 2MP Front-Facing, Camera RGB Multi-Coloured LED Notification Light Sensible case (covering the screen) addable to the existing rear shell, with a QI charger in the box. swap out the variation on flash size(2) and case colour(3) for screensize (3) and battery size(2) instead. Result is the same number of variants – but on things that matter more. And introduce me to the… Read more »
Duncan_J
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Duncan_J

If you designed phones Scott I would buy them.

I’d buy your phone but grumble on the announcement posts that I wish it was 5.2″ Max.

64 gb yes
Qi yes
Stereo front facing speakers, oh yeah.
Camera is more than HW. If we’re dreaming here I want android L to have a secret project Photon where they improve their software image processing quality and speed.
Usb c connection (I know it’s not released)
And everything else you said.

Allan O'Rourke
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Allan O'Rourke

Headphone jack at the bottom of the device. For the love of all that is digital, please!
Stereo speakers in front of the device if it’s 5.5in or above. Also, higher quality speakers.
Agree with the 64gb storage. No question.
Also agree with the Qi charging. It’s amazing.
Stop stressing about the thickness of a phone. If making the phone a little thicker means I get a bigger battery in it, then do it!
USB host capabilities, so I can share files between devices easily.

Joshua Hill
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Joshua Hill

What’s the advantage to having the headphone jack at the bottom?

I like it on top as it works better for using headphones while the phone is upright in your pockets.

Montalbert_Scott
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Montalbert_Scott

Good point re stereo speakers. I was going to mention it but was getting a bit wordy as it was.

I wish headphone jacks were back on the bottom..

Give me 1mm thicker if it gives me Qi..

Matt Coutts
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Matt Coutts

RGB LED is a Nexus trademark… except on the 2013 Nexus 7 *grumblegrumble* 🙁

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